The current state of disarray at Marvel
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Re: The current state of disarray at Marvel
They should have just sat on Spiral & made it issues 19-24 or whatever. Ah well.
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I understand a miniseries event called Contest of Champions is going to hit the reset button a couple of years from now.

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Back to the beginning once again. Contest of Champions was the first ever Marvel Limited Series, predating even the 4 issue Frank Miller Wolverine by a bit. It was basically a mini Secret Wars.
And speaking of Secret Wars, holy fuck was issue 4 ever awesome. Wow.
And speaking of Secret Wars, holy fuck was issue 4 ever awesome. Wow.
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I was a little perturbed that it looks like the only reason Scott Summers made it on to the lifeboat was so he could be fridged to show how powerful Doom is.jjreason wrote:Back to the beginning once again. Contest of Champions was the first ever Marvel Limited Series, predating even the 4 issue Frank Miller Wolverine by a bit. It was basically a mini Secret Wars.
And speaking of Secret Wars, holy fuck was issue 4 ever awesome. Wow.
But that final exchange between Doom and Strange was fantastic. I am delighted with this book so far.
And for conspiracy theorists thinking Marvel is diminishing the FF because they hate Fox, this is very much a FF story at it's core. Doom has taken everything Reed holds dear and made it his own. And Reed's gonna take it back.
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I'm not sure we've seen the last of Summers yet.
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Read Comic Shop News today & it advises that Secret Wars is going to go on for significantly longer than originally planned - not in terms of number of issues but in terms of release dates (6 won't be out until September 2, and 7&8 are to be determined).
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Secret Wars 5 had no action in it anywhere. None. No punching, no THWAAMMM, no leaping or laser eyes, no buildings crumbling.
It was still about as compelling a comic as I've read this year. You should be reading the Secret Wars issues even if you're dead set against the idea & don't want to spend money on them or any offshoots. I don't blame you at all for any of this.
Figure something out & read this series somehow.
It was still about as compelling a comic as I've read this year. You should be reading the Secret Wars issues even if you're dead set against the idea & don't want to spend money on them or any offshoots. I don't blame you at all for any of this.
Figure something out & read this series somehow.
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Just finished DD18 and I must say Mark Waid had a very good handle. I think I've read "most of most" of the highly touted DD runs (Miller, Kevin Smith, Bendis into Ed Brubaker and Waid), and this is right up there. Significantly lighter in tone mind you, but I found it worked - it matched the consistently good Samnee art very nicely. Would highly recommend getting trades if you like the character and haven't been getting the floppies.
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Responding to the thing in the "What'd you read" topic.
So Peter is now so far from the down on his luck Schmoe archetype Marvel has insisted on for all this time, him being married shouldn't be a real issue.
If fact, a successful CEO of a global tech com probably WOULD have a smoking hot supermodel for a wife.
Retcon OMD!!
So Peter is now so far from the down on his luck Schmoe archetype Marvel has insisted on for all this time, him being married shouldn't be a real issue.
If fact, a successful CEO of a global tech com probably WOULD have a smoking hot supermodel for a wife.
Retcon OMD!!
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Read both the Inhumans & Old Man Logan series' endings - neither one of these was very satisfying. Kinda wish I had just stuck to purchasing the main SW series to be honest (but then my run of Inhumans would somehow be broken and we can't have that, can we?)
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Re: The current state of disarray at Marvel
Dug out my old Eclipse Miracleman issues & was pleased to find I could finish the current book of reprints by Neil Gaiman. Now my question - do I continue buying the reprints to have a full run.... of new reprints.... or do I let the originals (which might be reprints too mind you, I can't keep it straight) take their place? I'm leaning towards continuing to buy the reprints & also attempting to locate the other 20 issues of the original reprinted series. Of course I am.
EDITED: The Gaiman issues from the original series (17-24) were NOT Warrior reprints. 17-22 is his complete book one "The Golden Age", which Marvel is reprinting as (Vol2) issues 1-6. 7 & 8 will be reprints, but 9-12 will be "new" stories finishing "The Silver Age", and issues 13-18 should finish off his trilogy "The Dark Age".
There is also "The Apocrypha" - a 3 issue limited series by other big-name creators that took place aside from the main series. No idea if Marvel is going to include these or not - if they do, we won't see new Gaiman stories for months & months & months yet.
EDITED: The Gaiman issues from the original series (17-24) were NOT Warrior reprints. 17-22 is his complete book one "The Golden Age", which Marvel is reprinting as (Vol2) issues 1-6. 7 & 8 will be reprints, but 9-12 will be "new" stories finishing "The Silver Age", and issues 13-18 should finish off his trilogy "The Dark Age".
There is also "The Apocrypha" - a 3 issue limited series by other big-name creators that took place aside from the main series. No idea if Marvel is going to include these or not - if they do, we won't see new Gaiman stories for months & months & months yet.
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I was wondering why they rebooted the series, but that makes sense, giving Gaiman his own series to tell his original story and give it a proper ending.
I've found about half of the Alan Moore issues(the new Marvel re-reprints).
I've bought the first two Gaiman issues, but I haven't read them yet. I don't know if I want to keep buying them new or just look for them like I've been with the other series.
I've found about half of the Alan Moore issues(the new Marvel re-reprints).
I've bought the first two Gaiman issues, but I haven't read them yet. I don't know if I want to keep buying them new or just look for them like I've been with the other series.
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You will really want to read them together. My suggestion would be to hold off until you can read at least 1-6, then hold off until you can read 7-12, then 13-18 if that makes any sense. If you choose to read early, head here - they will fill in all the blanks (and impart a lot of series knowledge & wisdom as they do).
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I can wait until I find them all.
I've been sitting on Scalped for a few years because I'm missing two issues.
I've been sitting on Scalped for a few years because I'm missing two issues.
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I've purchased 44 SW-related books at this point, with at least 1-2 left (not sure how many issues there will be of Guardians of Knowhere - it's the last series I haven't read yet from what I have sitting here - but I have to buy Thors 4 & Inf Gauntlet 5 at the very least).
By our current pricing that's about $220 on comics I haven't enjoyed in the least (with taxes & exchange I'm at $5 and change for each issue, every time I go to the store - this has been for the past few months anyhow).
They've all been difficult to follow OR have had no impact in the SW story at all OR both. I will never learn as I'm 100 percent sure I'll be making the exact same type of post when DKIII is over and I've spent over $100 on those 8 issues.
By our current pricing that's about $220 on comics I haven't enjoyed in the least (with taxes & exchange I'm at $5 and change for each issue, every time I go to the store - this has been for the past few months anyhow).
They've all been difficult to follow OR have had no impact in the SW story at all OR both. I will never learn as I'm 100 percent sure I'll be making the exact same type of post when DKIII is over and I've spent over $100 on those 8 issues.
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