X-Mutants ( The "all -things- X" topic)

[RoIIo Tomassi]

Sadly yes. And once was already once too many.

Fuck you, Chris Claremont.

[jjreason]

They just can't let a bad idea die, no matter what. I'm getting dangerously close to throwing up my hands again - so much stupid.

[anarky]

The preview for AvX doesn't change my prejudgment of it, that it is an abortion sandwich with dead baby seal sauce, wrapped in a cinnamon roll to make it look less offensive.

Even as a kid, though I'd partake in the theoretical "who would win?" arguments, the idea of heroes actually fighting was repulsive to me. Sure, that doesn't apply to guys like Punisher, cases of mind control, alternate reality stories, or to legitimate cases of mistaken identity/motivations or plain old unfamiliarity. One of the most fucking ridiculous scenes EVER to appear in a comic is in the "Fantastic Four vs New Fantastic Four" storyline. Wolvie and Ghost Rider, loose cannons, I can sorta buy it. Spidey and Smart Hulk vs the FF? I can't buy it. But the scene I'm referring to is when Thing is "horribly scarred!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!" Wolvie goes into a berzerker rage for what can only be about three seconds, slashes Thing (which scars the fuck out of him so badly he has to wear a mask, never mind that he still looks better than 99% of the "horribly scarred" characters in the MU, or that he's suffered much worse many times before without any visible effects), and immediately stops what he's doing to apologize. (I think his exact words were "Oh, geez, Ben, I'm sorry!") So both these teams that were beating the shit out of each other stop what they're doing, and it's like some kids horsing around on the playground until one gets hurt and everything stops and they try to figure out what the hell to do.

I love comics, but, god damn, I hate bad comics.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

Dipped into the boxes last night. I read

Blink 1-4. A mini series from 2002 showcasing the AoA version of the character. A forgettable story that has Clarice stuck in the Negative Zone fighting Blaastarr and making out with Annihilus. The only good thing about it was it led into Exiles. Which was an awesome book at the beginning. Then Claremont took over. Bastard.

Cable. The 25 issue series that took place inbetween MessiahX and Second Coming. Seeing as how Hope is hotshit in AvX right now, I thought now was a good time to read it. Cable takes the baby into the future with Bishop hot on his heels. With all the time jumping, the baby eventually grows to age 17. A pretty good read. I'm missing a couple issues, but the gist of it was sound. They turned Bishop into a reprehensible asshole though. I mean, the guy basically salted the ENTIRE Earth. He literally makes the entire planet unlivable, so he can "herd" Cable to a place where he can kill the baby.
It'll be funny if he ends up being right and Hope kills millions of people.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

A Colossus oneshot from 1997. Takes place while Petey was in Excalibur. It's written by Ben Raab(yuck) but the art is early Hitch/Neary, so that's kinda cool. In it Piotr and Meggan(Capt. Britain's GF) are in Paris to go to an Amusement Park (by the way, it's weird Peter is in Paris and making time with Capt Britain's girlfriend right? And she's running around in a tank top and panties in the hotel room their sharing. What?? Weird.) and they get attacked by Arcade. I fucking HATE Arcade. Fucking die already, you stupid 70s piece of shit.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

All New Exiles 1-11,∞ The ∞ issue was like an issue 0, but comic companies were running out of gimmicks by 1995. Soooo, yeah. This trainwreck series was part of the Marvel relaunch of the Malibu Ultraverse after the buyout. Limp from the beginning, by the end they were having a writer every issue. It was like watching a cat with leukemia slowly wasting away until the pound put the needle in his scruff.
Now let's all reminisce about the Ultraverse and how fucked up it was when Marvel bought the whole company and trashed it within a year!

[anarky]

I'd love to see Prime continued and/or collected. That was a pretty sweet twist on the Captain Marvel type (and Breyfogle art hurts nothing).

Judging from what I'm hearing about their half-assed CrossGen "reboot," that won't happen.

Of course, what could have happened: no Sentry on the Avengers. Prime instead. Once again, unique riff on Captain Marvel.

[Jargo]

Completely ignoring everything youse guyz are tawkin bout WTF is up with Northstar? So he can run fast and fly and when he touches his sister they make a flash of light and he throws hissy fits. I know the dude is a gay character but seriously how frackin lame is he. His main super power seems to be being a power bottom to Hercules and Namor. Now they've got Hulkling and some fairy called Assguardian/Wiccan locked in assbanditry. Shatterstar and Rictor are assbandits too. Is it the tight fitting spandex or what? Super lame.

[anarky]

I'll dredge up the thread about this very topic.

But, yes, though there are several gay characters, it's pretty fucking sad when the coolest is the Pied Piper from Flash.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

It's weird, but most of the vitriol is aimed at Northstar's boyfriend. I have no idea what that's about, but everybody seems to hate this poor bastard who is just a regular guy.

[Jargo]

That'll be down to him being not of the white skinned, coiffed weave, superhero type. I really object to the wedding story. Like all gay people want is external validation and normalisation through some antiquated ritual designed to bond a woman into slavery. What's wrong with two guys just shacking up together and being happy with that? It's a can of worms for sure. I love the quote from Rob 'Douche' Liefield about how he wants to retcon Shatterstars gayness when he can. Pro gay blogs call him homophobic but Liefield states that he created Shatterstar as a Heterosexual and so he should remain that way. Because of course nobody ever had self doubts or found themselves attracted to someone for surprising reasons. It's no wonder these superheroes are a psychiatrists wet dream when the creators are equally fucked up.
Annyhoo, I'll leave this now and join the other thread. I just had to say something because it's been bugging me for a while.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

Agent X. Today's is a fun one! This was a 15 issue "ongoing" from 2003. For whatever reason, Marvel cancelled its long running Cable and Deadpool books and replaced them with Soldier X and Agent X respectively. The original issues were written by Gail Simone and it was deliberately vague as to whether Agent X was Wade Wilson with amnesia. Simone left after issue 7 and we got a bunch of fill in writers until the book went on hiatus with issue 12. Then several months later, Simone returned for a 3 issue arc that explained Deadpool and Agent X being two different guys. Then both Soldier X and Agent X got cancelled and replaced with Cable/Deadpool. I'm missing 5 of the 15 issues, including an appearance by the Punisher in 2. But I got the gist of the series.
The book was okay, as it was Simone (who did excellent work on Secret Six) writing in DPs stream of conciousness style of absurd humor, even if it wasn't strictly Deadpool in the book. Simone writes DP better than Daniel Way ever will. Evan Dorkin also came in for a couple issues and resurrected his Fight-Man! character from his 1993 oneshot.
I'm still not sure what the whole Soldier/Agent X reboot was all about. Was it just trying to get the X brand into more of their titles? Were they trying to get use out of Cable and Deadpool without paying Liefeld royalties? Who knows.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

Finished off some Alpha Flight odds and ends in my boxes. Alpha Flight. What should have been a 12 issue Maxi series has managed 170 issues of junk. Anyway, here's what I read.
Annual 2. From 1987. Heather crashes her Vindicator suit in the Savage Land and gets amnesia. She helps some primitives defend their village against some other primitives. Bill Mantlo wrote. I see his name and get bummed out.
1998 Annual. Co starring the Inhumans. Okay, big tidal waves threaten Newfoundland. Heather goes missing at sea. AF looks for her and finds her in Attilan. The end. They literally spent ALL 64 pages of the annual on the most boring pointless story ever.
Alpha Flight 20. The final issue of the 1998 series. This series is the reason I loathe Steven Seagle. And I can't stand artist Duncan Rouleau either. I've often said the late 90s were Marvel's low point. Well, this series was the low point's low point. Glad I can finally put it to rest(except for that fucking issue 12 with that jackass Deadpool in it. gaaaah!!)
Alpha Flight 1-3. The beginning of Lobdell's 2004 12 issue series. Sasquatch is trying to gather a new team and nobody wants to join. So in that respect, it's funny because it's pointing out what a joke AF is. Still need to find the other 9 issues.
Also have a few issues from the 2011 series, but I'm gonna wait until I have all/most before I read them.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

Ohmigawd!!! This is the absolutely worst thing to happen in the history of Comics History!!! And/or the greatest thing to ever happen since the discovery of Sexual Intercourse!! One of those. No in-betweensies.

Discuss.

[RoIIo Tomassi]

Wolverine "retroactively" started the X-Men. What a big ol' bag of Fuck You from Marvel.
I like how Sabretooth was both on the "original" Avengers Team(Avengers 1959) and now the "original" X-Men.
They should retcon him into Spidey's origin as well.